Tough schedule
Mick Cronin talks frequently about how difficult UC's non-league schedule was this year. How tough was it? UC's non-league opponents have a combined record of 102-73. Their six non-league losses were to teams with a combined record of 76-28. That includes Belmont (9-7), Bowling Green (6-7), North Carolina State (11-3), Xavier (13-3), Illinois State (12-3), Memphis (14-0) and UAB (11-5). The NC State, Xavier, Illinois State, and UAB games were all on the road. UC's strength of schedule, according to CollegeRPI.com, is 28.
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Post a Comment*Hey, almost as tough as Xavier's non-con schedule, ranked 9th.
Losing programs love to quote stats.
If you can't win on the court, maybe you can look better on paper?
You X guys are really classy. I hope that you enjoy your success in your mid-major conference. I also hope that your program does not every experience the death sentance that UC has gone through. However, you lost big last year to one of the worst teams in the country and this year you had to win in the final minute. It is only going to get tougher for your in the future. Starting in a year or two, you may lose 5 or 10 games straight against big brother. So enjoy it now.
i'm really getting tired of mick offering up excuses all the time. Remember the no-3rd year scholly player? Getting quoted in all the boards, yet he has 5 Seniors on the team.
You play with the guys you got - no excuses. We missed the boat in not hiring Andy Kennedy.
How is Xavier's league play looking...
Opening with the Bonnies and Fordham
UC is @ Louisville, @ St. John's, Syracuse, Nova, @Notre Dame, Pitt, UCONN in a row.
Name any part of X's schedule that is that tough. In the A-10 you have 2-3 "semi-big" games a year.
Let's check SOS at the end of the year.
Yes, Xavier needs a tough non conference schedule because they play nothing but a bunch of 13th grade teams here on out except for Dayton.
For the last freakin time, Mick isn't offering up excuses, the reporters ask him the questions and he answers them. Do you think Mick tracked down Bill Koch to tell him how tough the schedule was?
Whaaa.... little micky cries.... whaaa....
"Losing programs love to quote stats.
If you can't win on the court, maybe you can look better on paper?"
LOL...UC is a top 10 program ALL TIME...
Your obsession is Fantastic!
Historically, UC is better than XU by any standards. XU is having a grea season. Enjoy it while it lasts.
UC basketball will be back and UC football will continue to improve. Speaking of football I watched we are Marshall. Funny to see that team beat XU. Mini-major then and mini-major now.
Omaha dave....you live in the past and exaggerate at best. Top 10? In what? Top 30 yes! One-two years is not a historical tradition.
Bearcat Bandwagon fans live for the present and the future. Enjoy your memories.
No comment or we have no excuses is an appropriate response to a question soliciting excuses. We need to play better and harder.
Responding with an excuse is an excuse. Duh!
too many non-grads on this board!
Hey Bill,
Would you please post the link to the Xavier University Sports Blog so these XU numskulls can pick up their toys and go home.
Perhaps a security clearance to post here could be used that would keep X fans out...how about requiring posters to correctly answer the following question: ignoring hiccups and anomolies, what College Basketball team dominates the tri-state?
And, the bonus question: What was Xavier's record in Football in 2007?
The college rpi is only one strength of schedule measure.If you look at their current sagarin ratings cincy's sos is actually in the 20's compared to x's down near 100. A close look at x's name out of conf. games reveals teams with very few quality wins outside of tenn.
Bill, thanks for asking Mick the question and thanks for your patience in putting up with the idiots on this blog.
X's "tough schedule" is a mirage. If you look into the teams K-State, Auburn, Virginia have wins against it is cupcake city. RPI SOS is based on opponents winning % only and at the moment it not enough games have been played to make the RPI SOS relevent. After all 30 regular season games have been played UC's RPI SOS will be much higher than X's.
7:31, you are really showing your ignorance. UC is a top 10 all time program according to the Sporting News and CBS. Get a clue. A couple of good or a couple of bad years does not make a program, whether little brother wants to believe it or not.
Mick is doing a good job and the team has been much improved since Warren's return. They will continue to do better and UC will be back to pre-death penalty status. Have fun little x and keep that glaring chip directly on your shoulder.
Bob Huggins vs. Andy Kennedy vs. Mick Cronin starts
I have read the blogs from some people on this site and I would like to set the record straight.
It is funny the past that everyone remembers and how diferent it is from reality.
The class that Huggins had to work with Lou Bank, Levert Robinson, Tate, and Keith Starks was one of the top ranked recruiting classes in the country. They had to sit out a year (prop 48s 1st year) for the bearcats when they came in, so they were all 4 year juniors when huggins got them. I played football with Sanders and he was a great athlete, and he was totally a role player on that team. The other guys were very good players and I believe they all went on to play professional basketball (not NBA)
And yates did have a 15-12 record the year before Huggins took over. Huggins had the advantage of starting in a new arena, where as Yates had to endure the gardens for at least one year. I am sure they actually played on XUs court.
I think Huggins finished like 18-14. Granted they had some better wins, but they also had some bad losses. Coastal Carolina for one. Don't get me wrong, I loved Bob Huggins, but he brought everything on himself.
Kennedy had James White, Downey, and Hicks. I think he had enough talent (although a lack of depth) to make the NCAA tournament. At the end of the season, two players (White was one and I can't remember the other) were suspended because of their poor grades and didn't play in the South Carolina game. So how much instatutional control did Kennedy have? Kennedy didn't want to be at UC and told the administration that he didn't want to be there. So why would they want him recruiting for UC.
He was a part time coach at UC and only wanted to be here that one year.
Mick Cronin started his career from below scratch. He had all of the negative stuff that Huggins or his followers wouldn't let go. He had Allen (who was terrible the year prior and the small forward who was 5th best player the year before and was only a role player to work with. He is a great recruiter (named by sporting news at least once "the best recruiter in the country" and will be successful at UC. He will make the NCAA tourney next year. He will make the NIT this year.
Right, blame all MC's problems on Ron Allen. Makes sense.
Xavier doesn't even crack the Top 80.
Xavier looks worse on paper...than they do in person.
AP All Time Top 20- College Hoops- March 2007
........………Pts No.1 Top 10 Top 20
1 Kentucky……. 672 8 38 45
2 North Carolina 560 5 31 40
3 Duke …………482 7 27 36
4 UCLA………... 477 7 24 37
5 Kansas ………397 1 20 31
6 Indiana……… 293 4 16 24
7 Louisville……. 262 0 12 25
8 Cincinnati……258 2 13 19
9 Arizona……… 245 1 12 20
10 Illinois……… 236 1 10 24
11 Ohio St……...212 3 13 16
12 Michigan…... 208 2 11 16
13 Notre Dame. .194 0 12 19
14 Marquette…. 191 0 11 17
14 Syracuse……191 0 10 20
16 N.C. State…. 181 1 9 17
17 UNLV………. 174 2 8 14
18 Maryland……173 0 8 19
19 Michigan St…167 0 7 13
20 Arkansas……166 0 9 15
Get your facts right. Memphis was at home.
I do not take much stock in facts. XU is the best program in the history of college ball. The mousketeers rule!
When your team is struggling as the Bearcats have been for the last 3 yrs and you can't make a March tourney - you turn to living in the past.
Who cares that UC got to the final four 16 yrs ago or that a program is all time top 20 - what have you done lately.
Compare your record to X for previous 10 yrs and UC comes in second.
Loyalty test for Bearcat fans - will you be rooting for Huggs W.VA. team or the Bearcats when they travel to Morgantown in late
Jan.? Suspect many of you will secretly be pulling for Mountaineers?
Funny to read Xavier posters on a UC website.
Shows how childish they are.
Still doesn't hide the fact that 2/3's of their conference is mid-major or worse. Sure, like every mid-major conference, they have one good year every 4 or 5 years.....and this may be it.
Xavier probably has their best team ever this year. They will probably go far and then Sean Miller will be a hot commodity and go elsewhere, while saying (like Thad) he loves Xavier! Blah, blah, blah. Then Kenny Frease will ask out of his commitment and follow Sean and so on and so on.
Then they'll catch Sean Miller and Dawn having sex in the weight room, oops, I digress.
wow - NC State got thrashed like none other today -
X fans are absolutely ridiculous. Go to your own message board...oh yeah, you don't have one. There's a reason for that; you're irrelevant. Get a clue, you're historically a very average program. Sorry you can't deal with your mid major label. That's what you are and always will be. Big wins over Auburn, Virginia, and K State...you should be so proud. Beating good names is not the same as good teams. Everyone you've beaten is down this year. Get a freaking clue.
I guess if you were more successful year in and year out you'd learn to handle the success.
3:59, you clearly have no idea what it is like to root for a school with a storied basketball tradition. You write as if all you know is how to be a bandwagon fan.
To think that we will be rooting for WVU shows this idiocy. Sure, I appreciate what Hugs did for UC, but no way does a Bearcat fan ever root against the Bearcats.
Why don't you go root for the patriots tonight, along with the rest of you bandwagoners.
"how about requiring posters to correctly answer the following question: ignoring hiccups and anomolies, what College Basketball team dominates the tri-state?"
Uh...Kentucky obviously.
Also, I love all the complaining from UC fans about X fans being on their message board...kinda like you guys instigating X fans on Dow's blog for the past 2 years. What goes around...
Anon 3:59, Loyalty test for xavier fans. Were you secretly happy when O$U under Matta beat x last year?
Compare your record to X for previous 10 yrs and UC comes in second.
Ok, let's compare:
UC (1998-2007 seasons): 238 - 89
X (1998- 2007 seasons): 230 - 94
Must be that X math letting you down.
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